About a week ago, Steve received a DM on Twitter from none other Josh Tillman, better known as Father John Misty.

This was not the first time he reached out to him — Josh also messaged Steve after last month’s episode on Pure Comedy with Pitchfork’s Jillian Mapes.

After that conversation, Steve asked Josh if he would appear on the podcast. Josh said “yes,” and because he’s a man of his word, he took some time out of his busy schedule to reach out for an impromptu conversation. We cover a lot of ground in this pod: We talk about the scuttled Pure Comedy musical, the controversial “Total Entertainment Forever” video, his next record, the video-game habits of his former band, Fleet Foxes, and (of course) the madness of mass media.